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Thomas Price, at Llanvilling, to (Sir Robert Owen),

Mr Commissary's not coming to St Asaph before Thursday has freed the recipient of a trouble at this time, by obliging the writer to return directly home, where some earnest concerns expected him. Advises Owen to seek the advice of counsel in his business. He returns with humble thanks Owen's books of 'travailes', both the authors of which come short of one Tavernier, as Tavernier in English comes far beneath the original; for the English translator, to save the credit of their dearly beloved brethren in commonwealth - the Hollanders - has omitted several things in his edition, which the Hollanders themselves - who study more their advantage of trade than conscience of honour - had the confidence to publish in the Leyden edition. He also sends the sycamore plants which he has long since promised, and hopes that Owen may ace them full grown to shade his walks where in a prosperous old age he will have nothing but heaven to meditate upon and nothing else to expect.

Tho(mas) Powell, at Pork(ington), to Sir Robert Owen, MP, at Westminster,

Inquiries about Owen's health. Dr Bradley is past all hopes of recovery: would Owen, therefore, be pleased to use his own or Sir Richard Midleton's interest with Sir William Whitmore for their friend G. Foster to succeed him in Stockton or, if that may not be, with Lord Craven for Felton. The writer has endeavoured to use that little he has in London on that account. He is presuming upon some discourses he had with Owen lately.

Thomas Powell and Peter Williams, Pembroke, to William Morise, esq,

Had intended to send the anchor and cable by this bark, but the weather is so bad that no man or boat will venture; also the fishing is so great that there will be no time. But they will do what they can between now and Christmas - they will be sent if possible and Thomas Powell and Peter Williams will do their best. Have sent this bark to be loaded with salt; request William Morise to have good measure taken from the ship and an account kept of what they receive. One or two more barks will come presently. They will not trust the ship to bring it because they cannot have the anchor and cable. The salt will cost them dear before arriving with them; this bark has £9 freight and so will the rest. William Morise shall have by this bark:. 20 Bushels of malt at 6s. £6. 100 Wet fish 26s.8. 200 Dry fish 20s. 10Lbs raisins at 8d. 6s.8. 6Lbs currants at 8d. 4s. 1Lb pepper 5s. 1Lb ginger 20d. 4Oz. cloves 2s.4. 1Oz. mace 1s. 1/2Oz. saffron 20d. 1Lb. aniseed 6d. 4Oz. nutmegs 2s. 61/2Lbs sugar 13s. £10.4.4 [Sic]. All kinds of corn are very dear; wheat is 8s. a bushel, barley 5s.4 and rye 5s.4. If William Morise wishes to have any, let him send a note and it will be sent by the next bark.

Thomas Powell and Peter Williams, Haverfordwest, to [William Maurice],

Have received William Maurice's letter by his messenger. Understand therefrom that the 'fleamin' is angry at not having the money to pay his company's wages and for part of the salt, which the recipients promised to send. When they came home the weather, through frost and snow, 'did fall out for a man or a horse to travell'. They also had a [?] to have the cable and anchor taken up, which hindered them. Have sent the bearer William Batman with money for the skipper to pay his company's wages and for part of the salt. A bark will come with the first wind with the cable and anchor and some malt and wheat for William Maurice as requested. Thomas Powell or Peter Williams will come in the bark or by land; meanwhile, if the bearer can freight any bark or pinnace, have ordered him to load it with the salt and send to Milford. Request to William Maurice [...] the salt may be delivered and to see that the skipper and his company 'come about' with the ship and salt, otherwise Thomas Powell and Peter Williams will be at great cost to send a bark to fetch it. Torn.

Thomas Owen, Plas Du, to [Sir William Maurice],

Gruffith Lewes the constable has been with Thomas Owen 'very ernest' for the mise. Thomas Owen has not paid it yet, praying William Maurice to forbear until the Quarter Sessions and not to conceive that it proceeds from any conspiracy in Thomas Owen with those who grudgingly resolve to oppose William Maurice therein, which is an ill precedent to encourage any others than are wellwishers to do their duty. Will soon request William Maurice chiefly in Thomas Owen's wife's name to suppress an alehouse hard by Thomas Owen, which he confesses that he was the principal solicitor to set up, and which William Maurice most unwillingly licenced to John Lloyd. Now Thomas Owen sees the inconvenience but lately others without any licence sell ale and tobacco without intermission to the hindrance of diverse people with great disorders.

Thomas Owen, Plas Du, to his uncle Sir William Maurice, kt, Clenennau,

The tenor of his last letters was not so distasteful or unreasonable as to bring back so bitter an answer, requiring only William Maurice's gentle forebearance for a time. There was no such undutiful disobedience to William Maurice's lawful authority in levying the mise, or the King's will and pleasure to that imposition, as William Maurice unjustly suggested in his answer. Thomas Owen's letter is, if William Maurice peruses it more fully, 'all the harme it expressed'; he made bold, like a blind bayard, to remind William Maurice of some public opposition thereto, which causes others of more tractability to be the more backward. William Maurice shall find that all Thomas Owen's late tenants, now tenants to Sir Thomas Middleton, conformed with Thomas Owen's advice and persuasion and as ready to pay it as any of William Maurice's, which Thomas Owen thinks deserved William Maurice's gentle forbearance, money being scarce, rather than his 'bitter snapp' to his poor nephew, who endeavours to be as little trouble to him as he can, and as faithfully forward to do him any pleasure or service he can, as any kinsman he has. A word or two on behalf of the bearer, Thomas Owen's hired servant, whose father has been a very long time in durance. 7s.6 of this mise was cessed a long time ago on him and his mother, being only poor of stock, but who held lands in their own occupation. But since the first of May last they demised all the lands to two other men, who since dwell there and occupy the lands. They had 2s.10 cessed on them since May last and duly paid it. In this regard they humbly pray William Maurice's gentle consideration to their poor estate and specified case.

Thomas Owen, Plas Du, to [his uncle] Sir William Maurice, kt, at Mrs Myllington's house in 'Poulscheyne',

However William Maurice speeds where he is, Thomas Owen knows he is missed at home, for as the proverb says 'the eye of the mr fatteth the horse'. It would be a comfort to William Maurice's friends and neighbours if he spent his latter days among them in tranquillity of mind, out of contention and litigiousness. Does not doubt that William Maurice will embrace this course when due occasion is offered. Meanwhile let him ply his business courageously, unswayed by his enemies; let him spare no cost - 'crede mihi res est ingenissa dare'. William Maurice lately suffered a 'foyle' before the Council; it could not be otherwise since William Maurice's course was unwise and done in heat. William Maurice must pay £31.13.4 by 20 March next to falsify Justice Barker's report of his careless payments. [?Mores] and the other two fellows would have stood by it still if Thomas Owen and Richard Gruff' of Tregarneth had not been there - they had to stay for three days. William Maurice's solicitor Gruff' Jones played the part of an honest man, and would have done better under any other attorney than John Powell, 'who is like to goe down the weather'. Requests William Maurice at his leisure to talk with the Lord Mayor's son on Thomas Owen's behalf, for the Mayor will perhaps be busy, condoling with him for his wife's decease, which Thomas Owen hears he takes heavily. Let William Maurice ask them to deal well with Thomas Owen, reminding the Mayor how Mr Williams the goldsmith escaped Thomas Owen by the Mayor's failure to pass the assurance to Williams, which caused Thomas Owen much trouble and expense. If necessary, would try to come up to deal with them upon reasonable notice from William Maurice, especially if William Maurice finds them willing to give him fully what he should have had from Mr Williams as 'he', Thomas Owen's brother, his cousin John Wynne Bodvyan, now in London, and his cousin Humfrey Jones can say. Spoke to Mr Middleton about it last summer, when the latter was in the country. Because of Thomas Owen's 'arrearages' to the Mayor and others, cannot live at Plas Du long 'in any good fashion', because of his last 'lawying' with Mr Williams, of which he hopes the Mayor will have some feeling. Has no stock to furnish his grounds, and is driven to find all necessaries from his corn. Has lately been subject, like William Maurice, to 'sundry casualties' from 'combrous neigbours without any color of right or truth', which costs backward a man of mean estate.

Thomas Owen, Plas Du, to his uncle Sir William Maurice, kt,

Troubles William Maurice with regard to a matter which he forgot to mention because of his sudden departure for London, namely, the rent of Tythen yr henre, which William Maurice, of his kindness and upon Thomas Owen's undertaking to content him otherwise, surrendered to Thomas Owen. Last Hilary Term William Maurice, to Thomas Owen's instance, wrote a letter to Sir Thomas Midleton signifying that he did not challenge it, and would yield further security thereof. Thereupon Thomas Midleton caused a release to be made from William Maurice and Thomas Owen, which Thomas Owen sealed and delivered. Asks William Maurice that if Thomas Midleton sends his man with the lease to him to be sealed, William Maurice will do so; assures William Maurice that he will do in lieu thereof whatever William Maurice thinks fitting in answer to his demand at Clenennau. Postscript: William Maurice is sure to have occasion to talk to Mr Bale, whom Thomas Owen has instructed to explain to William Maurice Thomas Owen's matter against the heir and executors of Maurice Gruffith, that Thomas Owen was 'damnified' and how the law will give him damage on the book and his part of the payment of £20 to Mr Arthur Williams.

Thomas Owen, Plas Du, to [his uncle Sir William Maurice],

Excuses himself for not calling at Clenennau on his way home; was informed at Penmorfa that William Maurice had gone to Bangor to meet the Justices and the news from William Maurice's grandchild Mrs Owen was so slender as not to be worth delivering or hearing. Thomas Owen's business with his own affairs, especially his commission, is such that he hardly has time to come to William Maurice. Tried all his wits and 'tost them like a tonnys ball' but could not draw 'her' to a compromise in the differences between 'you'. Urged that good would redound to her if she listened to William Maurice's counsel and referred the present odds to William Maurice's courtesy and that prejudice daily grew by their division, instancing Robert ap John ap Humfrey's recovery etc. If there were no great hindrance except her consent, by reason of the reversion, [urged her] to join William Maurice in a reconciliation. She answered that she knew no cause of difference on her part; if there were any, it was on William Maurice's. As for the titles they wholly concerned William Maurice's being in possession, etc. She hoped William Maurice would do his utmost for his own good to preserve his ancient estate from impeachment without cause or title which if there be, she hopes William Maurice will take the best course to an agreement, believing that there is no adverse party in those titles that would not rather lose than stand out with William Maurice. She further hopes William Maurice will rather do her good than any hindrance to the maintenance of herself and eight children, whom in Thomas Owen's opinion she brings up well. She will be ready at William Maurice's command, embracing his blessing, to show him all kind offices, and to come to the county on good terms. Understands William Maurice has 'compromitted' once again the matter between him and Robert ap John ap Humfrey. If William Maurice thinks Thomas Owen's presence would stand him in any stead, Thomas Owen will be ready. Would like to be informed when William Maurice's man goes to London and whether he may use him if necessary in the matter between him and Mr Williams; would give him some consideration.

Thomas Owen, London, to [his cousin] William Moris, esq., Clenennau,

Has received since his departure two letters from William Moris, both to the same effect and courteous far above his deserts. How can he, a poor gentleman, deserve that a man of William Moris's standing should make him head of so ancient a house and honour him with such a gracious living and a gentlewoman so fair and good. Can only be grateful and await the opportunity to show his thanks. Could he but match William Moris without harm to his estate, her person and William Moris's friendship would blindfold him to any consideration of wor[l]dly wealth. Since that is not the case, must take careful consideration both for his own sake and her good and that of William Moris. At the first conference, no offer made by his friends, however large, was accepted. It was broken off with the condition that if a second meeting were held in the country at midsummer, at the wish of William Moris and Thomas Owen's cousin, the previous offers should not be mentioned, but matters should be freshly debated through the mediation of friends. Feels himself wronged in William Moris's last letter, in which William Moris bids him be constant and refers to a former promise. Thomas Owen's liking for the lady is unchanged, and William Moris refused the previous offers. If the promise referred to is the one made by Thomas Owen before Mr Henry Lloyd, Mr David Roberts and others to be there at midsummer to settle the matter, Thomas Owen intends to be present, if William Moris is of the same mind. Will proceed no further in the matter, but refer it to the meeting; meanwhile leaves the disposition thereof to William Moris. The reason for Thomas Owen's delay in answering his cousin's letter and those of William Moris was that he intended to send Henry Hughes, the bearer of William Moris's letters, to confer with William Moris & in other business in Wales. Hughes said in a letter that he would return in less than a month and offers his services. Is still awaiting him and fears he has offended William Moris; is now obliged to send by other means, as he might have done originally. Hopes that William Moris will take no offence. Wrote to his cousin Elin; perhaps William Moris will be displeased. But it is Thomas Owen's way to look on the dark side; if a solution is found he cannot then be accused of ill dealing. Will not spare himself in the dear matter of his marriage. Hopes there is nothing in the letter at which William Moris may take exception.

Thomas Owen [Actually Owen Thomas Owen. In his early letters [Nos 75, 273, 286, 293] his signature appears as Thomas ...,

Thomas Owen [Actually Owen Thomas Owen. In his early letters [Nos 75, 273, 286, 293] his signature appears as Thomas Owen, but internal evidence shows that the writer could not have been Thomas Owen, senior], to William Maurice. This evening, coming to London from North Wales, he received a letter from William Maurice by Mr Roberts. Understands that others are sent by Henry Hughes to be left with Mr Powel. These have not yet come to his hands. William Maurice need not excuse himself to the writer of any suspicion of sinister dealing concerning the matter between William Maurice and the writer's young cousin. He never believed any such conceit. Only this he knew (and therein found himself to be overmatched) that William Maurice was very wise, circumspect and politic in his matches and bargains and the writer of small experience and practice in such things. Therefore he opposed against William Maurice his cousin Henry Lloyd, and to second him his cousin Gwyn, as he thought men of indifferent good judgment in the affairs of the world. But he found them far inferior and weak to deal with William Maurice as by their offers did appear. For they left the ground given them to deal for a younger brother and passed too far the bounds of the offer limited. 'You like a wise buylder and proporcioned and squared all your demands with such arguments and reasons that they knew not when to detracte anything from them, but still tooke more and more from mee to adde thereunto'. He will never have any man to be umpire in these matters any more. Either it must be ended quietly between William Maurice and himself or not at all. Cannot come home any more. Sir Thomas Sicil and he have bargained and now they are in terms again of a second bargain, namely that he will buy it back again or exchange it with other lands which are pastures, 'for mine being arrable landes will not yield in this cuntre so great a profytt as inclosures, and the freeholders that are mixt with me will not sell me their part that I may enclose yt'. Is bound to attend Sir Thomas Sicil when his leisure serves. Does not account deferring of time a material point. Neither force nor bad dealing can be offered William Maurice's child in William Maurice's own country. 'I assure myself your affection and love towards me is permanent and fyrme, and therefore time breaketh no square unless you determyne on other courses to seeke land and therein I am as I yelded at fyrst minimus apostolorum'. Postscripts: Other general personal matters. For William Maurice's reply see No. 442.

Thomas Mytton, at Robert Bootle's at the Sign of the Crown, Black Friars, to (John Owen),

Sir. Would have written by the last post, but he came to town so late that he could not learn with certainty all the business standing on the militia and the commission of array. It was moved in the House on Tuesday that the King should waive the commission of array and Parliament desist in the militia. But it will not yet be condescended to. As soon as he has any certainty he will let his correspondent know. Fears that his stay will be longer than he intended by reason of his uncle's weakness. Letters were read in the House yesterday that Gustavus Horne, Prince Robert, (the Lord) Digby, Jermin, etc.: are coming to Newcastle with a great store of ammunition: others say for a pacification. The writer conceives these no fit agents therein. 'Believe what you please'. There is a speech here very fresh that the commission of array is to come speedily to Salop. Sir Richard Newport, Sir Richard Ley, William Fowler, Thomas Screven, Francis Thornes, Richard Lloyd, commissioners. He hears of no other. Through the kingdom they intend, it is said, to alter all the commissions for the peace. For the common cause the writer has sat up all night, and truly his coming up was very requisite therein. They will not join issue but say they have an order from the judge for stay until next term. He proposes to take strong action in the matter, for as the case stands he longs to have a skirmish with them. Though Andrew Lloyd bragged that he had overthrown David ap John's title which now they are not willing to [do] justly with. Asks that his cousin Powel be certified thereof especially the two valiants Jack and Dick Lloyd. 'There is a booke come out fitte for my cousin your wife's readinge. If she has not seene yt I will bringe it down with me. It is an apologie for privat preachinge which I hope with my persuasive opinions will convert her. I have sent you one pamphlet herewith.'.

Thomas Mytton, at Conwy, to Sir John Owen, Governor of Conwy Castle,

'I receive you even now, and to omit your answere to all the particulers of my summons - which in time you will finde to be true - I come unto your conclusion which is that you will treate with me onelie if I will accept of such conditions as you shall propound.' Owen should know that conditions should come from the writer, but if he has propositions ready, Mytton will receive them and return answer to them. If they be not ready, and if it please Owen to come out, Mytton will speak with him before he goes; but his time is very short, and his horses are now come for him. This should be a sufficient pass for Owen's safe coming and return. Annexed Terms of surrender suggested by Sir John Owen. 1 For their honourable marching away to a place Owen appoints. 2 That all officers and soldiers as well (be) reform(e)d and others withal. 3 All goods in the castle to be returned to their owners. 4 All officers and soldiers and others comprised in these articles to have liberty to live at home for the space of six months under Mytton's protection, and that protection be procured for those outside his command until the time prefixed be ended. 5 All prisoners taken in this garrison to be released and to have the benefit of the articles. 6 All Irishmen to have passes to return to Ireland, to have quarter on their march and free shipping. 7 The sick and hurt to be carefully looked after and to have the benefit of these articles. 8 That the castle may be demolished. 9 All those of the garrison who have passes to go and return also to have the benefit of the articles. 10 That four months of Owen's arrears contribution be paid in towards the payment of his soldiers. 11 All former business not to be questioned. 12 In case they are relieved before the 15th. Nov. all to be void, otherwise to be delivered then. 13 Oxford.

Thomas Myddelton, at Great Queen St, to Sir Robert Owen,

Has been to pay his duty to their great man the Lord Duke of Beaufort but had not the good fortune to find him at home, otherwise he would be able to give Owen a better account of his promise as to Owen's commission of being deputy-lieutenant in their county, which business he hopes to effect soon. Craves pardon for sending the enclosed, but it is according to the familiarity he desires may be ever between them, on which score he will rely on Owen to engage to appear those of the jury whom he knows, so that the writer may have impartial justice done to him.

Thomas Maurice to Sir Robert Owen at Porkington,

What he sends Owen may give him a few moments' diversion. It is said to be what was spoken by the gentlemen herein named in opposition to the Earl of Portland's grant. Asks for a line to be sent to him at the Crown and Harrow in Chancery Lane. Attached are a number of statements made by Sir William Williams, Sir Roger Puleston, and Mr Rob Price, before the Lords of the Treasury on Friday 10th May 1695, objecting to a proposed grant of the Lordships of Denbigh, Bromfield and Yale to the Earl of Portland.

Thomas Martyn to [William Maurice],

According to William Maurice's letters has done his best in all William Maurice's suits. Encloses the charges and how they stand. 1. Touching Sir Henry Bagnall's action against William Maurice, Mr Brynkyr and Mr Lewys, they were outlawed before Thomas Martyn heard, but procured the attorney to take a [ ] and have time to answer until next term. Let William Maurice send instructions. 2. As for the suit of Mr Leonard Baker and Mr Thomas Adrewe against William Maurice and Mr Brynkyr, returnable this term, was forced to plead a delay until next term. Then William Maurice may have the actions confessed to save charges and a stay of process until the Easter term, and William Maurice and Mr Brynkyr can take no harm until next Michaelmas term. 3. In Edwards's recovery against William Maurice the outlawry in the Common Pleas is discharged and satisfaction acknowledged. Mr William Thomas must plead the pardon and have satisfaction acknowledged for him next term if he wishes. 4. Thomas Bankes the hosier had sued William Maurice to an outlawry for £40; that is also reversed and deferred until next term. 5. Leonard Baker and Thomas Andrewe had sued William Maurice and Mr Brynkyr to an outlawry last Easter term. That was reversed for them both and next term they may declare if they will for bail is put in Court for them both. 6. Eva verch Meredith by Mr Blodwell had got a judgment entered against William Maurice for £300 but by Thomas Martyn's labour thinks she and Mr Blodwell will lose their charge and begin again if they 'list', for they will lose the suit in the Common Pleas and the King's Bench. 7. The outlawry after judgment against them at Sir Richard Bulkeley's suit was not discharged in Mr Antrobus's book but upon a search being made of the accounts, Thomas Martyn had a note delaying the process of outlawry and next term William Maurice may have satisfaction entered and the pardon pleaded and discharged for about four nobles. Refers all other matters to the bearer's report.

Thomas Madryn, sheriff, and Thomas Mostyn, Edward Williams, Robert Wynn, Maurice Kyffyn, Rowlande Puleston, William Gruffythe, Hugh Gwyn, Gruffydd Vaughan ...,

Thomas Madryn, sheriff, and Thomas Mostyn, Edward Williams, Robert Wynn, Maurice Kyffyn, Rowlande Puleston, William Gruffythe, Hugh Gwyn, Gruffydd Vaughan, Gruffydd Ap John Gruffydd, justices of the peace, all of Caernarfonshire, Carnarvon, to [Henry Herbert, Earl of Pembroke, President of the Council in the Marches of Wales]. Upon receipt of Henry Herbert's letter, have called before them within their several divisions all men able to provide 'ffurniture' for the Queen's service and have assigned them presently to provide light horses, armour, weapons and other 'ffurniture' and munitions fit for war, according to their circumstances. Have chosen men able to use the arms and taken musters thereof. Intend to take more musters, and have warned the men to be ready upon ten days' warning. The number of light horses, arms and men appears in a book of musters delivered to the sheriff to be handed over to William Mauris, esq., one of the deputy lieutenants and provost marshal, for delivery to Henry Herbert, according to instructions.

Thomas Madryn, sheriff [of Caernarfonshire], to the bailiffs of Pwllheli and John Williams,

Directions to levy forthwith on the goods of the persons herein named the sums of money noted, under a warrant sent to Thomas Madryn by the deputy lieutenants John Gwyn and William Mores, esq's, these who withstand payment to be arrested and taken to Carnarvon gaol or castle. The list reads:. Gruffydd ap David ap Ieuan Lloid 4s. Thomas ap Thomas 4s. Owen Thomas ap Ieuan 4s. David ap Howell 2s.

Thomas Madryn, at Madryn, to (Sir John Owen),

Honoured Sir. The writer has according to Owen's desire sent a pass for him to stay out as long as his occasions permit. Is sorry about Owen's indisposition. Wishes him much health and a safe return. The writer's 'humble service to my lady'.

Thomas Mackworth, at Evenall, to William Owen, esq., at Porkington,

Has visited his cousin Mytton who is ready to meet with Owen and the freeholders of Whittington as soon as possible. Asks for a meeting on Friday or Saturday next - on Thursday his cousin Lloyd is engaged. He would prefer Friday, so that he could be at liberty to travel homewards on Saturday. Because the days are so short he would be pleased if they could meet in the morning about 9 or 10 o'clock at any house Owen may appoint in Oswestry where they may dine together and have opportunity of being merry as well as serious together.

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